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view post Posted on 9/6/2020, 14:52
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When Chris Avellone delivered a talk at Rezzed 2013, his presentation contained an image of an early FNV game map. It's interesting as it shows several locations not only absent from the finished game, but many that also don't even get a mentioned from any characters in the final game (and considering there is substantial world building with many Van Buren locations getting name dropped, that is interesting). Many of them are based on real life locations which aided in identifying them (the picture is rather hard to read). A number of them seem to simply have been cut when they moved the northmost boundary of the game map south leaving Nellis as the most northerly place so likely had zero actual development put into them. The map is also interesting as the zone numbering is the same as was used in the final game (e.g. 2E, 1C, etc), and shows us EXACTLY where these zones are defined.

As an aside, it seems this numbering system was abandoned early on - at least as an editor guide for where people were going to be found. Only NPCs from certain time periods use this system, most notably some parts of the strip, and westside. At some point naming conventions shifted to simply being NVwhatever with the name just being a literal description of whatever or whoever it was rather than including where they were found in the game. The map further indicates that Pablo Miller and Billy Bettis are almost certainly originally Westside or North Vegas residents, which was pretty obvious before anyway.

The locations are:

Something's Legionaries Camp - This is where the Malpais Legion Camp is found in the Geck in the final game. It can be assumed this is the same location as on the early map, although it looks to me as if the first word is a name as it has a possessive apostrophe. I can't make it out from the picture.

Camp Willow - Located south and slightly east of The Fort. Presumably this would be a conquered NCR station. It is located at the real life Willow Beach Marina. Interestingly this location is named as the site of one of the deciding battles of the first Hoover Dam campaign in the official strategy guide, yet is not actually mentioned by anyone in the final game. videos of the real location on youtube show the area is very flat and just above river level (naturally - it is a beach!) compared to the high cliffs that keep the player out of this side of the river in the final game.

Corn Creek Dunes - A location found roughly where the real life town of Corn Creek can be found.

Floyd Lamb State Park - Again another real life location found to the north west of Vegas.

Valley of Fire - Real life highway to the north east.

Sandy Valley - This is actually a real town comprised of what were once five smaller mining communities, of which one is Ripley, another ingame location.

Ripley - Location east of Sandy Valley. See above. Interesting that it would have been considered a seperate entity to Sandy Valley in the game.

Las Vegas Dunes - Found Just north-east of Vault 34, this is a real life "recreation area" which consists of little more than a series of bleak hills and vehicle tracks. Probably would have been an enemy encounter area in the game.

Devil Peak - A real life mountain south of Goodsprings.

Mummy Mountain - Another real life mountain North-east of Jacobstown. So named as it apparently kind of has the shape of an Egyptian mummy's sarcophagus.

Elephant Hill - Located across the Colorado river opposite Blue Paradise Vacation Rentals. A real but seemingly largely uninteresting hill overlooking the Colorado. Perhaps another Legion camp location?

Garnet - Located dead north of the Gypsum Trainyard. Another tiny real life town.

Cacida? - A location to the South west of Primm (in actuality it's kind of due west of where Primm is in real life). Not sure if this is a real place, but there are small towns in that area. Unsure on what the name says, but it begins with a C. Based on the above it probably is a real place.
 
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view post Posted on 12/6/2020, 09:38
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view post Posted on 12/6/2020, 09:51
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view post Posted on 12/6/2020, 18:49
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Ho trovato l'account discord di Magic Muller :sisi:
 
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view post Posted on 12/6/2020, 18:52
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CITAZIONE (Retlaw65b @ 12/6/2020, 19:49) 
Ho trovato l'account discord di Magic Muller :sisi:

oh nooooooooo
 
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view post Posted on 12/6/2020, 18:56
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Preparati :sisi:
 
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view post Posted on 12/6/2020, 21:19
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CITAZIONE (Retlaw65b @ 12/6/2020, 19:56) 
Preparati :sisi:

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view post Posted on 13/6/2020, 15:57
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dai Ratlaw, sto aspettando :sisi:
 
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view post Posted on 13/6/2020, 16:27
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In verità non so neanche se quell'account sia veramente il tuo :nono:

Edited by Retlaw65b - 13/6/2020, 17:54
 
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view post Posted on 13/6/2020, 17:08
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view post Posted on 13/6/2020, 20:02
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ehi Ratlaw, trova il mio account Steam :sidigruppo:
 
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view post Posted on 14/6/2020, 12:10
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CITAZIONE (Magic Müller @ 13/6/2020, 21:02) 
ehi Ratlaw, trova il mio account Steam :sidigruppo:

Ieri hai giocato a Mass Effect 2?
 
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